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Ron Paul Wakes Up, Quits Bid For President

Posted by Thunder Pig on June 13, 2008

After wringing the last possible dime from his supporters, Ron Paul has joined the Huckster, Romney, and other Republicans and formed a PAC of his own, after quitting the race for President.

The mission of his new PAC:

The mission of the Campaign for Liberty is to promote and defend the great American principles of individual liberty, constitutional government, sound money, free markets, and a noninterventionist foreign policy, by means of educational and political activity.

Ron Paul is sadly lacking in his understanding of the importance for us to engage the enemy from a forward posture instead of hiding in our homeland, and giving him the rest of the world. If Ron Paul had been President during World War II, Europe’s fate would have been decided between the Soviets and the Nazis, and hundreds of millions more people would have died, and billions condemned to live under slavery before we joined them.

I will be very interested in seeing how many of his local supporters go through with their plans to leave the GOP, and join the hopeless campaign of Bob Barr, or help the insignificant Libertarian Party of North Carolina by enrolling as members, and running for local and state offices, or campaigning for Libertarian candidates…the only way any party is successful.

So, my question is, will they work, or will they whine?

Hat Tip: Race 4 2008

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Political Merchandise Fire Sale: "Everything Must Go!"

Posted by Thunder Pig on May 30, 2008

Now, this is funny, I don’t care who you are!

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Presidency Thwarted, Ron Paul Movement Morphing

Posted by Thunder Pig on May 29, 2008

I continue to monitor the followers of Ron Paul (via 347 RSS Feeds currently), and have been neglecting to post some of what I have been reading.

Perhaps the best way to correct that over sight is to start with the new Ron Paul Book, The Revolution: A Manifesto. He appeared on C-SPAN’s Book-TV recently, and here is the video:

I think it is good for the Ron Paul people to stay in the GOP, because this is the year that a Libertarian Party could take off. It is better that the movement be split right now between the GOP and the strengthening Libertarian Party.

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West Virginia Primary Results and Ruminations

Posted by Thunder Pig on May 14, 2008

First, the Democrats:

  1. 67.0% Clinton 239,062
  2. 25.7% Obama 91,652
  3. 07.3% Edwards 26,076

And, the GOP:

  1. 76.0% McCain 89,683
  2. 10.3% Huckster12,175
  3. 05.0% Paul 5,914
  4. 04.4% Romney 5,188
  5. 02.4% Rudy 2,831
  6. 01.2% Keyes 1,426
  7. 00.6% Others 727

Source: New York Slimes


Edwards, the man who dropped out months ago, got nearly 1/3 the vote that Obama did, and nearly 75% of West Virginians voted against the presumptive Democratic nominee. What a protest vote, indeed!

On the other hand, 24% of Republicans voted against the GOP nominee. Not quite the showing the Democrats engaged in, to be sure. Also, there were two Republicans still on the ballot, and ordinarily one would expect the protest vote to coalesce around the minority candidate, however, this year that minority man is Ron unacceptable man to the majority of right-thinking Republicans. He received a mere 5%, while the Huckster received more than twice his vote (10.3%) and another 9.6% also said no to Ron Paul, McCain, and the Huckster.

This has been one of the very few benefits to the Ron Paul Supporters (I call them Pauleroids) joining the GOP…it dampens any breakout power that they, or their candidate could have. They have been reduced to formulating resolutions, and planning temper tantrums that will further damage their standing in the party. Just imagine the damage a Ron Paul/Bob Barr ticket could have done to us in the General Election. By himself, Bob Barr is just sad humorless, sarcastic man. With Ron Paul, those two men could have been Ross Perot, redux. With a weak candidate like John McCain, we cannot afford that. God has already given us the gift of Obama, who is about the weakest candidate the Democrats could have put up. He hasn’t decided to give us over to the fire just yet…we have been given another go at it.

Posted in 2008, Barack Obama, bill Clinton, Democrats, demographics, GOP, Idiot Ron Paul Supporters, John Edwards, John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Ron Paul | 2 Comments »

Pauleroids Still Plan Disruptions For The GOP Conventions

Posted by Thunder Pig on April 23, 2008

The Pauleroids (see Ron Paul r3VOLution) have come up with another plan to seize power, and mount another Beer Hall Putsch so their man can become leader of this Republic.

Don’t believe me? Read on, and learn what is being planned for the GOP Convention…

A Strategy

Some Meetups are already giving up hope, but there is a way for us to get Ron Paul the nomination, and it is absolutely doable.

In a nutshell: If enough delegations sit out the first and second vote, McCain won’t get his required majority, and the national convention will become a brokered one- which means anything goes.

There are two main hurdles to accomplishing this:

1. To be even presented for nomination, Ron must be able to “demonstrate the support” of a majority of the delegates from at least five states.

2. Getting enough state delegations to sit out the first two votes won’t be easy but it is totally within the realm of the possible!.

What depresses so many delegates is that in order to even be selected as delegates to go to the National Convention, they are required by state party rules to sign a pledge that they will “support” John McCain. That is not the end of the story, however.

The only consequence of that is that a delegate’s vote for anyone other than McCain will simply not be counted.

That’s all!

There are no legal ramifications for breaking that pledge. There are only possible ethical concerns. These ethical concerns, however, are completely swept aside by the possibility of simply NOT VOTING the first time around.

The RNC’s party rules expressly contemplate and acknowledge that State Delegations may choose to sit out a vote. Rule 37c states:

(c) In balloting, if any delegation shall pass when its name is called, then at the conclusion of the roll call all delegations which passed shall be called in the order herein before established. No delegation shall be allowed to change its vote until all delegations which passed shall have been given a second opportunity to vote.

That means (a) it’s ok to abstain from voting, and (b) the only consequence is that the passing delegation(s) must be given another chance to vote before any other delegations are released from their pledges.

The Big Challenge:

The big hurdle to climb is the requirement of paragraph (b) of Rule 40, which states that in order to even be presented for nomination, a candidate must be able to demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates of at least five states. Here is the rule:

(b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination.

The rule does not define what precise “demonstration of support” is required. In other words, it is not necessary that Ron Paul must have won a majority of the “beauty contest” (popular primary) vote in five states in order to be entitled to all their delegates.

What is a demonstration of support?

A candidate can ask that the delegations of five states where he believes he has enough support be polled by roll call so as to enable him to demonstrate that he has the support of a majority of delegates then and there at the National Convention.

That means we have to get to work on the delegates of each state after the state conventions are over.

Many Republicans hate McCain, or at least dislike him.

There is a huge arsenal of issues on which McCain has exposed himself as a sell-out to conservative Republicans: national sovereignty, free speech (McCain/Feingold), amnesty, guns, abortion you name it, he has voted against conservative values on these.

There is also evidence he “sang” in Vietnam, costing untold numbers of his fellow POWs their life.

It should not be too difficult to convince conservative delegates not to vote for him with that evidence especially in light of the fact that the party rules explicitly contemplate the “passing” of votes by state delegations!

The Strategy:

The strategy therefore must be to get as many Ron Paul delegates selected to represent their state at the National Convention.

That means our delegates need to stay low key.

Resolutions are a dead giveaway, especially when they are fought over things like opposition to the war, or abolishing the Federal Reserve and the IRS, all signature issues of Ron Paul.

So, the best plan is to shut up, move along, do what you ave to do to get selected, sign the pledge to “support” McCain (it doesn’t say you promise not to abstain!) and just get in short of outright lying, of course.

If there are any ethical concerns about this supposed “stealth tactic”, think about what ethical concerns you may have if you allow McCain to become president by your inaction.

Old guard Republicans may complain about supposed “stealth” or deception-but what is it their preferred candidates do when they swear in their oath of office to “support and defend” the Constitution and then do the opposite?

What is more unethical?

What is more damaging to the country?

What is more destructive of the very foundation of our government and our way of life?

My question is: As long as there is even a sliver of a chance to get Ron Paul the GOP nomination why give up??

Why resign yourself to debating endlessly about the fine points of endless party resolutions and platforms knowing they are routinely ignored, anyway?

These party honchos and their favorite sell-out candidates constantly ignore and violate even our Constitution! What makes you think they won’t utterly ignore whatever provisions we manage to get into the national party platform?

Is that worth the price of being spotted and “marked for death” by the party honchos at the state conventions? I don’t think so.

Not when you consider what’s really at stake.

So, please, please, please don’t give up! Ron Paul still has plenty of fight left in him at his advanced age. Why shouldn’t we?

Let’s fight for what’s important (Ron Paul winning) – not for what routinely gets ignored!

Source: The Left/Right Knockout written by Alex Wallenwein


I posted the entire article so that you may see that the Pauleroids do not love liberty as they proclaim: They want power. They are obsessed by it, and just like their progressive fellow-travelers, they see the government as the agent of change, and the preferred wielder of power in our daily lives.

Just look at how they fight to destroy the Federal Reserve, and create a State Bank. Can you imagine what Nancy Pelosi and her friends in Congress would do if they were in charge of monetary policy? Look at how they have transformed Social Security from a minor 1% “voluntary” deduction on your payroll taxes.

It now eats up several percentage points, and is “mandatory” under force of law.
If you do not know of very tiny loopholes, your income is sucked into a rathole.

We do not want Congress in control of our money supply, and we do not want these idiots in our party. That being said, I am very glad that they did not try to establish a third party this year, and run candidates for all levels of office…because they might have succeeded in getting a few of their people in office, and critically wounded the GOP this year. As it stands now, it is a fight within the party…and we can manage them much better where we can watch them.

Some of us can even pretend to be one of them without too much trouble. You’d be surprised at much cred they will given a guy, or girl, for waving a sign like an idiot on an overpass.

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Yay! Ron Paul is FINALLY Dropping Out!

Posted by Thunder Pig on March 7, 2008

It is no secret to the readers of this blog that I share many of the same political views with Ron Paul. His view that precluded my support for his campaign was his idiotic opposition to the USA taking a forward posture in the prosecution of World War IV.
Here is the announcement:

Here is my response:

Seriously, though, I look forward to working with elements of the Ron Paul campaign that chose to stay in the Republican Party on items on mutual benefit. Goodness knows, it’s not like they’ll be able to agree with one another long enough to form a viable third party. I hope most of them stay in the Republican Party because the creation of a third party around the remnants of the Ron Paul Revolution would be a danger to the GOP.

Hat Tip: Raleigh News & Observer

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Gallup Poll Tracking 02-22-008

Posted by Thunder Pig on February 22, 2008

Here are the latest figures from Gallup:


  1. 45% Hillary Clinton
  2. 44% Barack Obama
  3. 01% Mike Gravel

Here is a graphic to show the poll tracked over time:

Has Obama peaked? Is the Hilda Beast making a comeback? Or is this just statistical noise?

The Republicans:

  1. 62% John McCain
  2. 22% Mike Huckabee
  3. 05% Ron Paul

Here is a graphic to show the poll tracked over time:

McCain and Huckabee are going in separate directions, McCain is up, and Huckabee is down, 2 out of 3 of Mitt’s Supporters going to McCain, and Ron Paul is in the weeds…below the radar on this graph. Instead of useless money bombs, poll-jacking and sign waves, the Ron Paul r3VOLution should have engaged in membership drives. They will probably never realize their childish behavior ran people away from Ron Paul. As an example, listen to this podcast: [1] [2]
I have been using that podcast locally as one of my tools to demonstrate the need for conservatives to become educated on the philosophical underpinnings of conservatism, and to get involved in politics on the precinct level.

Methodology: Gallup is interviewing no fewer than 1,000 U.S. adults nationwide each day during 2008. The results reported here are based on combined data from Feb. 18-20, 2008, including interviews with 1,006 Republican and Republican-leaning voters, and 1,218 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters. For results based on these samples, the maximum margin of sampling error is ±3 percentage points. In addition to sampling error, question wording and practical difficulties in conducting surveys can introduce error or bias into the findings of public opinion polls.

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Wherein Ron Paul Wakes Up To The Possibility of Losing His Seat

Posted by Thunder Pig on February 11, 2008

Fringe candidate Ron Paul (R-TX14) is scaling back his 2008 Presidential Sign-Waves and Overpasses Tour in favor of not losing his Congressional seat.

His challengers are Andy Mann and Chris Peden. I will be providing some information on both of the campaigns with the goal of identifying a candidate that Republicans tired of Ron Paul can support…since Ron Paul is getting funds from across the nation to support his re-election bid, it is only fair that we return the favor.

I think the only proper name for such a project would be: Operation Blowback: Texas Style! I am sure his supporters can appreciate the irony of that title…

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SurveyUSA Virginia GOP Primary

Posted by Thunder Pig on February 9, 2008

  1. 57% Senator John McCain
  2. 25% Governor Mike Huckabee
  3. 9%Congressman Ron Paul

1,700 state of Virginia adults were interviewed 02/07/08 and 02/08/08. Of them, 1,470 were registered to vote. Of them, 382 were determined by SurveyUSA to be likely to vote in the 02/12/08 Virginia Republican Primary. All interviews for this survey conducted after Romney withdrew, and after both local and national evening newscasts aired on 02/07/08. Results from partial sample conducted 02/06/08, before Romney withdrew, are available here.

Source: Survey USA

In the 18 to 34 year-old category…interesting to marketing types, since most of today’s advertising seems to be directed at this group, McCain had 50% support, Huckabee had 28% support, and Ron Paul had 14% support (his highest demographic).

Also interesting to note from the survey conducted immediately before Mitt Romney withdrew, McCain had 45% Romney had 22%, Huckabee had 20%, and Ron Paul had 11%. All gained when Romney withdrew except Paul, who lost 2 out of 11 likely voters.

The most important thing the withdrawal of Governor Romney did was to allow McCain to begin raising money for the General Election by giving him a lock on the GOP Nomination. There will be no brokered convention for the Pauleroids to disrupt.

The party will line up behind McCain, albeit some of us under protest. We will be grownups about it, and look to the alternative party, and shudder. We see in Hillary everything we despise about government, and those who ‘know better’ than us about what is good for us. We look upon Obama and see a foreshadowing of the anti-Christ. He is pleasant to the eyes and ears. He speaks of hope, and brings with him the force of government to control every aspect of our lives.

We know where our duty is, and we will do it. But never forget (this is directed at the RINOs) we have your number, and we will be ready to pick up the pieces when you fail at imitating the Democrats. 2012 is not really that far away.

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Republican Debate at Ronald Reagan Presidential Library

Posted by Thunder Pig on January 31, 2008

Here is the entire debate:

And you can read commentary over at You Decide 2008, where they have a forum to discuss the debate.

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