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To ashevegas joe

Posted by Thunder Pig on January 25, 2008

Apparently a limit has been reached or imposed on our thread at Mtn Xpress, and here is my response to ashevegas joes last:


well, above you said you were registered independent, then you said the following:

“Essentially , our founders were well read men who studied worldly, educated men who were standing on the shoulders of giants.”

that is a VERY conservative position. To quote Kirk:

“Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription. Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants, able to see farther than their ancestors only because of the great stature of those who have preceded us in time. Therefore conservatives very often emphasize the importance of prescription—that is, of things established by immemorial usage, so that the mind of man runneth not to the contrary. There exist rights of which the chief sanction is their antiquity—including rights to property, often. Similarly, our morals are prescriptive in great part. Conservatives argue that we are unlikely, we moderns, to make any brave new discoveries in morals or politics or taste. It is perilous to weigh every passing issue on the basis of private judgment and private rationality. The individual is foolish, but the species is wise, Burke declared. In politics we do well to abide by precedent and precept and even prejudice, for the great mysterious incorporation of the human race has acquired a prescriptive wisdom far greater than any man’s petty private rationality.”

And as far as answering you, I have only done so when directly addressed.

I’ll take the Iraq war since it is one I deal with on a daily basis:

“Let me start by saying I’m a registered independent, so the Democratic Party will probably not pick me to debate the Stompers. However, it is of no consequence, as there is little to debate. As for Mr. Nesbitt’s first point, the purpose of “the war on terror”, is to grab and occupy an antiquated, fossil fuel.”

That is most patently false.

We have helped the Iraqis build their military:
Table of Order

Iraqi Security Forces Surge:

And here is a page listing the progress of turning the Iraqi Provinces back to Iraqi control…
you said…
“One that has cost many lives, much environmental degradation, as well as the growing disdain of the U.S. worldwide.”

Our casualties and deaths are very significantly lower than nearly any other invasion in history, truly a historical success.

As far as Iraqi lives lost, do not believe the lies put out by the Soros funded Lancet Study…designed to hurt President Bush in the 2004 Election.

Even notoriously lefty site Iraq Body Count records about 14% and it does not distinguish between people killed by our forces, or the enemy forces, who are notorious for specifically targeting civilians.

And here is another site, which measures coalition force deaths, civilians, and other factors as well

And compare those figures to the number of Venezuelans who die violently to Iraqi deaths…a rate twice that of Iraq…and Venezuela isn’t occupied by anybody other than Chavista thugs.

“enviro degradation”

Oh, like our restoration of the Marshes for the Marsh Arabs, who had their marshes (wetlands to you lefties) drained and burned, their homes destroyed?

And Saddam’s burning Kuwaiti Oil Fields in 1991?
Who fixed that, I wonder.

He tried it again in 2003, but we stopped it.

And don’t believe the lies about Depleted Uranium.
I hope you haven’t flown lately, because many aircraft use DU as trim weights.

And as far as worldwide disdain of the USA, I don’t give a rats tuccus what lefties think of our great nation, whether they be here, or on a sidewalk cafe in Pairs, or participating in a rent-a-mob protest for the cameras.

We are the last, best hope of humanity on this planet. We have saved Europe’s behind three times in the 20th Century, and it looks like we may have to do it again to save them from becoming Eurabia.

That is, of course, assuming we haven’t succumbed to the march of socialism here, or worse, yet Dhimmis ourselves.

We are in this Fourth World War to the death, whether we withdraw, or whether we continue to advance. I call it World War IV, the Salafis call it “The Third Great Jihad” and mean to destroy western civilization. Some of us will fight that, even if our government surrenders.

I could answer each and every one of your points at length, and in detail, but will not not add to what I feel has become an overly long response.

If you feel you need the other questions answered, just google my user name, and you’ll find my blog. I think I have already answered most of your questions at one time or another there, or will do so upon request. This thread is supposed to be focused on The Carolina Stompers, so I’ll bow out and let them assume center stage. I have not meant to steal any of the limelight, Chad, so please forgive me. I get worked up beyond my ability to control in the face of such utter ignorance of the world situation, and the bigotry of lefties everywhere. Were there a real Galt’s Gulch, I would decamp there and leave the morons to die in their own filth.

Who is John Galt?”

[edit] I think I like this style of composing material for dissemination, and am considering a series where I answer point-for-point a post on a lefty (or pauleroid) blog.

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Politics, Democrat Style

Posted by Thunder Pig on January 25, 2008

I love it when lefties help us out:

Found at HuffPo

I hate the way everything is so staged for consumption according to “anointed” victim groups, each with “special” status.

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Retired Army Green Beret Court Martialed; Used Weapon of Inufficient Caliber On Home Intruder

Posted by Thunder Pig on January 25, 2008

Retired Army Green Beret Smokey Taylor was court martialed this weekend, and came away feeling good about it. Taylor, at age 80 the oldest member of Chapter XXXIII of the Special Forces Association, was on mock trial by his peers under the charge of “Failing to use a weapon of sufficient caliber” in the shooting of an intruder at his home in Knoxville, Tennesee, in December.

The entire affair, of course, was very much tongue in cheek. Taylor had been awakened in the early morning hours of Dec. 17, 2007, when an intruder broke into his home. He investigated the noises with one of his many weapons in hand. When the intruder threatened him with a knife, Taylor warned him, then brought his .22 caliber pistol to bear and shot him right between the eyes.

“That boy had the hardest head I’ve ever seen,” Taylor said after his trial. “The bullet bounced right off.” The impact knocked the would be thief down momentarily. He crawled out of the room then got up and ran out the door and down the street. Knoxville police apprehended him a few blocks away and he now awaits trial in the Knox County jail.

The charges against Taylor were considered to be serious. He is a retired Special Forces Weapons Sergeant with extensive combat experience during the wars in Korea and Vietnam. “Charges were brought against him under the premise that he should have saved the county and taxpayers the expense of a trial,” said Chapter XXXIII President Bill Long of Asheville. “He could have used a .45 or .38. The .22 just wasn’t big enough to get the job done.”

Source: Red Stater

My experience tells me that although a 9mm will put a man down, a 45 will keep him down. If you wish to avoid finding yourself in a similar situation, might I suggest my favorite brand of handgun.

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The Champs Elysees Republicans

Posted by Thunder Pig on January 25, 2008

The Financial Times joined the EUnuchs in celebrating current U.S. financial markets’ instability. The EUrocrats are, as usual, rejoicing in our problems, saying that we’d be so much better off if only we adopted their socialist economic theories. But Europe — and it’s projected 1.5-1.8% growth — is in worse shape than we, not better. Nevertheless, FT pompously passed along the call to “wake up, America!”

It is worth noting that this chortling occurred amid a meltdown of Europe’s own stock markets. They’ve got their priorities, though.

OK, so let’s pay attention to Europe.

Just the day before the FT article appeared, the European Confederation of Iron and Steel Industries pleaded with the European Commission to stop the hemorrhaging from their global warming carbon cap-and-trade rationing scheme. The reason is that this put their industry at a big competitive disadvantage compared to Chinese, Russian, Indian, U.S. and other producers.

This scheme that has sent European steelmaking jobs to Kentucky and Alabama, is also what Sens. John McCain, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Gov. Mike Huckabee are all advocating. It’s good to know the Europeans might be nice to them.

Just the day before that cry for help from lagging European industry, the European Roundtable of Industrialists similarly begged the Commission, saying this program could destroy the competitive position of European industry. The letter was signed by the CEO of Royal Dutch Shell, a company which had all along pushed for the scheme, as far back as when Enron pioneered the (very Enron-esque) moneymaking deal here, before the, ah, unpleasantness.

This reminds me of the arrogance dogging U.S. industry lobbyists advocating imposition of this economic millstone here. Experience notwithstanding, they convince themselves that they can ride the back of the tiger of energy rationing policies and not end up in the tiger’s belly. Europe has proven that these schemes will not work as promised, and will get out of the control of the big businesses who push them as useful idiots of the environmentalist industry.

One reason we haven’t seen such legislation pass here — yet — is because thieves tend to fall out when it comes time to split up the loot, and industry and their political pals haven’t agreed on who gets to pick your pocket.

But Europe plans to treat us with more hectoring, Given the pain from just three years of a regulatory experiment to hide their inefficient energy tax they now promise a trade war.

The President of the European Commission, José Manuel Barosso, vowed to impose trade sanctions on countries that haven’t adopted Europe’s rationing scheme. (Never mind that I’ve documented that they’re cheating under it). This is a direct admission we that the scheme is doing precisely as we warned, and killing their economy.

Remember this when you hear ”cap and trade” sold domestically as creating “green collar jobs.” That’s nonsense. Though some brokerages have done well and utilities, some oil companies and others have been given windfall profits in the trillions, the real cost is the number of jobs high energy costs are chasing away. They have even driven steel jobs here, at the expense of EU economic growth.

Source: Human Events


Carbon Cap & Trade is code for Communism seeking a go in the west at Wealth Transfer.
It treats carbon as currency…much like Enron [1] [2].

Governor Mike Huckabee’s support for a cap and trade system is unacceptable for a so-called “Conservative” [1] [2] [3].

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